{"id":5152,"date":"2017-02-26T11:41:55","date_gmt":"2017-02-26T15:41:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/?p=5152"},"modified":"2017-04-27T09:41:28","modified_gmt":"2017-04-27T12:41:28","slug":"springs-rubber-bands-and-hi-starts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/?p=5152","title":{"rendered":"Springs, Rubber Bands and Hi Starts"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n<p class=\"pvc_stats all \" data-element-id=\"5152\" style=\"\"><i class=\"pvc-stats-icon medium\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><svg aria-hidden=\"true\" focusable=\"false\" data-prefix=\"far\" data-icon=\"chart-bar\" role=\"img\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" viewBox=\"0 0 512 512\" class=\"svg-inline--fa fa-chart-bar fa-w-16 fa-2x\"><path fill=\"currentColor\" d=\"M396.8 352h22.4c6.4 0 12.8-6.4 12.8-12.8V108.8c0-6.4-6.4-12.8-12.8-12.8h-22.4c-6.4 0-12.8 6.4-12.8 12.8v230.4c0 6.4 6.4 12.8 12.8 12.8zm-192 0h22.4c6.4 0 12.8-6.4 12.8-12.8V140.8c0-6.4-6.4-12.8-12.8-12.8h-22.4c-6.4 0-12.8 6.4-12.8 12.8v198.4c0 6.4 6.4 12.8 12.8 12.8zm96 0h22.4c6.4 0 12.8-6.4 12.8-12.8V204.8c0-6.4-6.4-12.8-12.8-12.8h-22.4c-6.4 0-12.8 6.4-12.8 12.8v134.4c0 6.4 6.4 12.8 12.8 12.8zM496 400H48V80c0-8.84-7.16-16-16-16H16C7.16 64 0 71.16 0 80v336c0 17.67 14.33 32 32 32h464c8.84 0 16-7.16 16-16v-16c0-8.84-7.16-16-16-16zm-387.2-48h22.4c6.4 0 12.8-6.4 12.8-12.8v-70.4c0-6.4-6.4-12.8-12.8-12.8h-22.4c-6.4 0-12.8 6.4-12.8 12.8v70.4c0 6.4 6.4 12.8 12.8 12.8z\" class=\"\"><\/path><\/svg><\/i> &nbsp;1,560&nbsp;total views, &nbsp;1&nbsp;views today<\/p>\n<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n<p>This is something I have been curious about for a while, sorry about the un sharp Pics<\/p>\n<p>Rules regarding 2 M RES etc, and the availability of different size rubber, and stretching the hi start to a max of 4 KG so that the airframes survive.<\/p>\n<p>Rubber with a higher spring constant K does not need be stretched as far as one with a lower value to exert the same force on a spring scale.<\/p>\n<p>Doubling 2 pieces of rubber may not give you a higher launch, of course there are other variables<\/p>\n<p>It is Potential energy in the Mechanism which effectively does the launch, of course the mass of the plane, winds air currents aloft, pilot ability also add to this.<\/p>\n<p>All things being equal though I believe a longer stretched rubber band will give a better launch then a shorter stretched one. \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>Even If the overall length is made equal with more line,<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_5148\" style=\"width: 810px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5148\" class=\"wp-image-5148 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/P1190451-001.jpg\" alt=\"P1190451-001\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/P1190451-001.jpg 800w, http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/P1190451-001-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/P1190451-001-768x576.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-5148\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">My two hi star rubbers<\/p><\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_5149\" style=\"width: 810px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5149\" class=\"wp-image-5149 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/P1190452-001.jpg\" alt=\"P1190452-001\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/P1190452-001.jpg 800w, http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/P1190452-001-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/P1190452-001-768x576.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-5149\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">the 3 set of 2 bands (Hi Start B) stretches to 60 cm to yield 3 kg on the scale<\/p><\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_5150\" style=\"width: 810px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5150\" class=\"wp-image-5150 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/P1190453-001.jpg\" alt=\"P1190453-001\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/P1190453-001.jpg 800w, http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/P1190453-001-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/P1190453-001-768x576.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-5150\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">the 5 x 1 piece rubber (Hi Start A)\u00a0 stretches to around 210 cm to the same 3 KG<\/p><\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_5151\" style=\"width: 810px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5151\" class=\"wp-image-5151 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/P1190454-001.jpg\" alt=\"P1190454-001\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/P1190454-001.jpg 800w, http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/P1190454-001-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/P1190454-001-768x576.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-5151\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The difference is 150 cm. So goes to say the rubber 3 x 2 needs an extra 150 cm of line to have the same length at 3 kg when anchored at the same location<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Now, of course there will be stretch in the line etc,<\/p>\n<p>Next step I added some fishing line and when I stretched it to 3 kg it cut thru the single rubber band Hi start A<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Back to Square One<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Haven&#8217;t proven anything yet, but surely when the rubber that is stretched out longer is released it will go farther then the one that isn&#8217;t stretched so far.<\/p>\n<p>Hence unequal Hi Start rubber while still fun, is not the same.<\/p>\n<p>Latest update, Launched these Hi Starts, 1 x4\u00a0 (Histart B Modded) and 2 x 3\u00a0 (Histart A)\u00a0 from the\u00a0 end of a pen, both stretched to yield 2 kg on the Scale.<\/p>\n<p>the 1 x 4 went 28 ft or so, and the other only about 1\/2 the distance , aimed for similar Trajectories as well<\/p>\n<p>\ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n<p class=\"pvc_stats all \" data-element-id=\"5152\" style=\"\"><i class=\"pvc-stats-icon medium\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><svg aria-hidden=\"true\" focusable=\"false\" data-prefix=\"far\" data-icon=\"chart-bar\" role=\"img\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" viewBox=\"0 0 512 512\" class=\"svg-inline--fa fa-chart-bar fa-w-16 fa-2x\"><path fill=\"currentColor\" d=\"M396.8 352h22.4c6.4 0 12.8-6.4 12.8-12.8V108.8c0-6.4-6.4-12.8-12.8-12.8h-22.4c-6.4 0-12.8 6.4-12.8 12.8v230.4c0 6.4 6.4 12.8 12.8 12.8zm-192 0h22.4c6.4 0 12.8-6.4 12.8-12.8V140.8c0-6.4-6.4-12.8-12.8-12.8h-22.4c-6.4 0-12.8 6.4-12.8 12.8v198.4c0 6.4 6.4 12.8 12.8 12.8zm96 0h22.4c6.4 0 12.8-6.4 12.8-12.8V204.8c0-6.4-6.4-12.8-12.8-12.8h-22.4c-6.4 0-12.8 6.4-12.8 12.8v134.4c0 6.4 6.4 12.8 12.8 12.8zM496 400H48V80c0-8.84-7.16-16-16-16H16C7.16 64 0 71.16 0 80v336c0 17.67 14.33 32 32 32h464c8.84 0 16-7.16 16-16v-16c0-8.84-7.16-16-16-16zm-387.2-48h22.4c6.4 0 12.8-6.4 12.8-12.8v-70.4c0-6.4-6.4-12.8-12.8-12.8h-22.4c-6.4 0-12.8 6.4-12.8 12.8v70.4c0 6.4 6.4 12.8 12.8 12.8z\" class=\"\"><\/path><\/svg><\/i> &nbsp;1,560&nbsp;total views, &nbsp;1&nbsp;views today<\/p>\n<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;1,560&nbsp;total views, &nbsp;1&nbsp;views today This is something I have been curious about for a while, sorry about the un sharp Pics Rules regarding 2 M RES etc, and the availability of different size rubber, and stretching the hi start to a max of 4 KG so that the airframes survive. Rubber with a higher spring [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":4891,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5152","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5152","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=5152"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5152\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5169,"href":"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5152\/revisions\/5169"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/4891"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=5152"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=5152"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=5152"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}