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Nov 07<\/h1>\n

That’s it just a few pictures in the green,West Coast Composites Partial Kit Build Styrofoam wing, ply sheeted<\/p>\n

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Nov 03<\/h1>\n

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Nov 01<\/h1>\n

Under camber on the U\/S requires paying close attention when ironing on the covering. Tack at trailing edge, sides, and leading edge. Do not pull tight, just as placed flat on surface is good enough. Then slowly feed in heat with a sock covered iron, slowly you will see the wrinkles disappear as you nail the covering to the under cambered portion first of the underside.<\/p>\n

Do not try and work to fast, or you will fold over a wrinkle. Carefully numerous light pressure passes is best<\/p>\n

With time work towards the edges, and finally the edges can be finished and trimmed out.<\/p>\n

Note: tack all round only\u00a0 or else you will have a mess and can start over with a new sheet, but don’t seal the edges as they may need to give away as you work there later.<\/p>\n

It takes me about an hour to do a 25 x 10 section on the U\/S of these wings,\u00a0 woo hoo<\/p>\n

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Oct 30<\/h1>\n
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#955 Violet, Darker then\u00a0 purple lite,\u00a0 on the stab<\/p><\/div>\n

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one side covered<\/p><\/div>\n

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fuselage with covers and hatches, a couple servos no battery or wing rod or lead<\/p><\/div>\n

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lite white rudder<\/p><\/div>\n

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stab at rudder<\/p><\/div>\n

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Oct 27\u00a0 Fuse Paint<\/h1>\n

6 coats brushed on, most sanded off between coats, yes a Glass Fuse took on about 35 grams of paint . Last few 3 coats sprayed on yesterday. Nice<\/p>\n

I’m going to add a neoprene wear strip\u00a0 on the belly forward of the tow hook.<\/p>\n

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Oct 06<\/span><\/h1>\n

More Bonus<\/p>\n

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Just busy cleaning up details, sanding, spoilers control, check alignment , add rudder post. Discovered an Issue with DS09amd servos, so they will be replaced with DS11 amd’s<\/p>\n

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Fresh air<\/p><\/div>\n

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right wing tip panel top<\/p><\/div>\n

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left wing tip panel<\/p><\/div>\n

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Left wing, bottom spoiler servo opening<\/p><\/div>\n

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Inboard end right panel , top<\/p><\/div>\n

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20 1\/2 inch from kink in wing to start of open bay extension<\/p><\/div>\n

Oct 04<\/span><\/h1>\n

Just some more\u00a0 detail, clean up etc the left wing panels are joined, need to clean up excess glue at the join<\/p>\n

The leading edge on the inner panel of the right wing is in place and shaped.<\/p>\n

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Right wing spoiler servo<\/p><\/div>\n

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Oct 02<\/h1>\n

All went well, those spoilers should work, and I hope the wings work as they are being glued together as is \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n

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one root rib, and a doubler with a t-nut use a screw to hold the wing to the fuse, or If your into catching tips, perhaps fashion a Hook and add a spring, rubber band or a tie wrap<\/p><\/div>\n

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left inner panel root, seems I got everything as far as housekeeping goes, and hope to retrieve the servo wire sometime later once the root cap is in place. Critical times, hope all the preparation pays off and this thing soars<\/p><\/div>\n

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almost forgot, thought I was finished until I realized I needed a couple magnets and screws to secure the spoilers for most of there flying life<\/p><\/div>\n

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I’ll get those glued in when I glue the root caps<\/p><\/div>\n

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4 MM magnets as I recall, they worked before<\/p><\/div>\n

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wing sandwich with some roots, a fuse and a bit of epoxy for the filler<\/p><\/div>\n

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again, this should set up nicely<\/p><\/div>\n

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Wing tip panel sweep locater, gotta get both sides the same<\/p><\/div>\n

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Height, calculates to a 10 Degree angle, you know, it’s the symetrey I look for and will endevour to make the left panel the same<\/p><\/div>\n

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That wraps things up, yup there’s glue in there and I have it held together. Watch for the uneventful picture of the wing as one piece, soon !!<\/p><\/div>\n

September 29 – These wings will be beauties, hope it flies \ud83d\ude42<\/span><\/h1>\n

Oops, put the top sheet on the last inner panel and forgot to cut the opening for the spoiler in the bottom sheet beforehand.<\/p>\n

Bonus Footage<\/h1>\n

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Will a flashlight have enough light to shine thru and show me the location<\/p>\n

Standby !<\/p>\n

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I put the panels up against the lite and was able to mark the openings<\/p><\/div>\n

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a sharp blade and a straight edge, and a few scribes later I was thru<\/p><\/div>\n

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here the spoiler servo access , underside<\/p><\/div>\n

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Careful, keep those lines clean and straight<\/p><\/div>\n

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opening exposed, good stuff, I will be able to clean this up and fit the spoiler<\/p><\/div>\n

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There’s the servo lead extension, will have to see If I can squeeze the servo in there later<\/p><\/div>\n

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after some edge work, I got the spoiler in, I am glad I placed frames before I sheeted<\/p><\/div>\n

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tip panels set up and root clean up. One wing like the other<\/p><\/div>\n

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close<\/p><\/div>\n

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woo hoo for those using Planning Software, this could be a milestone, getting the Panels together<\/p><\/div>\n

September 26<\/h1>\n

Those tip extensions are glued to the tip panels<\/p>\n

Here are a few Pictures of recent work. Making progress as well with sheeting the inner Panels<\/p>\n

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Sept 24<\/h1>\n

Not a fan of springs ? \u00a0 Thoughts on wing retention would also be appreciated<\/p>\n

The original Sagitta’s had springs between a couple hooks anchored in the roots of the wings.<\/p>\n

Color<\/span>, color<\/span>, . It’s<\/span> not<\/span> to<\/span> late \ud83d\ude42<\/span><\/h2>\n

Fuselage \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0 white<\/h3>\n

Rudder<\/h3>\n

wing inner panel (sheeted foam core)<\/h3>\n

wing mid (sheeted foam core)<\/h3>\n

wing tip panel (open bay ribs)<\/h3>\n

Not much detail here, one sheet after the other is glued to the foam wing core panels. At present the 4th and last sheet of the tip panels is curing.\u00a0 The stack gets carefully aligned each time, long set epoxy is spread onto the underside of the ply, and then all cores and in between pieces get weighted down<\/p>\n

A day later I can move on.<\/p>\n

Oh yes there’s some detail here of the rudder with a couple hinges in place.<\/p>\n

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Sept 21<\/h1>\n

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soon sheeting, that will wrap the wings up<\/h1>\n

Sept 16<\/h1>\n
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more details buried in the foam<\/p><\/div>\n

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one of the tip extensions. These will be level with the sheeting on the former tip panel, 120 Plus Wingspan , Nice<\/p><\/div>\n

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10 Degrees here on the polyhedral, a straightedge and square should get the alignment correct on both panels<\/p><\/div>\n

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The key for me is to get the other wing panel the same<\/p><\/div>\n

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slot and fillers , will glue the tip panel in place once sheeting is done<\/p><\/div>\n

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this should work<\/p><\/div>\n

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will need some epoxy here<\/p><\/div>\n

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mid to tip panel will be flat \ud83d\ude42<\/p><\/div>\n

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Sept 09<\/h1>\n
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Hum, small servo, just need the arm to come up thru and open the spoiler though<\/p><\/div>\n

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spoiler opening<\/p><\/div>\n

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I set the spoiler in place, to hold the frame while the glue sets. I will check for level after<\/p><\/div>\n

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I decided to add a bit of a guide for the canopy, to control left right movement.<\/p><\/div>\n

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added some scaffold below until the spacer is glued to the U\/S of the canopy<\/p><\/div>\n

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weighted down while the glue sets<\/p><\/div>\n

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Got some sanding done on the canopy<\/p><\/div>\n

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spoiler in place<\/p><\/div>\n

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small but mitey spoiler servo<\/p><\/div>\n

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the tube blocks are not as high as the space between the spars, I will add a plywood spacer<\/p><\/div>\n

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both spars in place, the inboard end here needs to be sanded to get an angle of 3 Degrees,<\/p><\/div>\n

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I still need to add some clearance at each end of the spoiler for the frame ends<\/p><\/div>\n

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spoiler servo, spoiler, I need to frame the opening such that I have something to fasten the ultracote to<\/p><\/div>\n

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Sept 04 Wing Panels
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lower spar build, fin stab control, inner to tip panel joiners, hatch magnets<\/p>\n

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lower spar with wing rod tube holders<\/p><\/div>\n

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inner foam core, grooves where in place for the lower balsa spar, cutout was made to accept the block, also the cutouts for servo leads spoiler servo, and spoilers need to be added to the cores as required<\/p><\/div>\n

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inner to tip panel join, I wouldn’t be happy with just gluing the joins and not adding a joiner, also have to add a bit of a spar system to the tip panel cores to mate with the joiners<\/p><\/div>\n

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cutout added as required for the joiner<\/p><\/div>\n

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stacked and prepared for adding the lower spar, will use Laminating epoxy,as you can see I also have added a frame for the spoiler servo<\/p><\/div>\n

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some wax paper gets added to protect the next layer of the stack \ud83d\ude42<\/p><\/div>\n

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all stacked on a flat surface and weighted down<\/p><\/div>\n

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looks good aiming to get this level so that the 1\/32 ply that goes on to finish these cores is clean<\/p><\/div>\n

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inner panel , I’m happy so far, there’s a few more steps to go, and these darn things have to be handled with care.<\/p><\/div>\n

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top, as you can see a piece of balsa gets added here as well<\/p><\/div>\n

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adding the final layer of ply to the 3 layer joiners, I have add CF at the center<\/p><\/div>\n

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belcrank install in fin, the 1\/8 tube feeds thru the fin sides and gets glued in place. I have a tail post to add later<\/p><\/div>\n

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a couple sets of magnets hold the rear of the canopy down<\/p><\/div>\n

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Aug 27\u00a0 Fuselage
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rear hatch and frame<\/p><\/div>\n

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frame in place under fuselage opening and glued<\/p><\/div>\n

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canopy hatch rear magnet mount<\/p><\/div>\n

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forward hatch pin and grommet<\/p><\/div>\n

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AuG 21 Fuselage work<\/span>
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former at wing rod tube,<\/p><\/div>\n

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Tow hook doubler<\/p><\/div>\n

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formers for the servo tray<\/p><\/div>\n

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formers tacked in place<\/p><\/div>\n

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servo tray, those darn screws with these servos are 1\/4 inch to short for my preferred mounting method,, Huum<\/p><\/div>\n

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One of those short screws here<\/p><\/div>\n

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Aug 19 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 Stab, Rudder <\/span><\/h1>\n
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stab control and pivot, tubes and Pins<\/p><\/div>\n

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spacers under tubes get removed later<\/p><\/div>\n

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sheeting needed as well at root<\/p><\/div>\n

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More rudder, with some ply doubling for horn, weights are around here somewhere 12 – 14 Grams I really like these cf trailing edges, hard and straight and easy to sand too. Spiffy \ud83d\ude42<\/p><\/div>\n

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more rudder<\/p><\/div>\n

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some sanding and shaping done here<\/p><\/div>\n

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push rods aft ends threaded ends get glued in place<\/p><\/div>\n

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ply doubler for tow hook, well it’s under there and glued<\/p><\/div>\n

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back side<\/p><\/div>\n

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July 21 2018, Stab Set<\/h1>\n
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woo hoo, CF TE, some framing, I will had some thickness after<\/p>\n

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May 31 2018<\/span><\/h1>\n

Flat tip panel will be the way this is done.<\/p>\n

CF spar 6 mm, cf trailing edge. 10 Inch extensions.<\/p>\n

Total span 120 Inch<\/p>\n

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Bulkheads, push rods, control horns all that good stuff<\/p>\n

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Control horn, has to clear the fin post and give me the range of motion I need on the stab, yet be strong and lite, will sand away some more material later<\/p><\/div>\n

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Had to thin the base for the sullivan clevis, the threaded link wont be part of the package later, adjustment can be made at the servo end<\/p><\/div>\n

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something like this, though I will need some blocks on either side for axial support<\/p><\/div>\n

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a little room above the axial support bearings , a good spot for a hinge later, This is gonna be tight with the post that I need to add later. Hope it works<\/p><\/div>\n

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Not shown, but I have, while no one was looking added a piece of 1\/8 lite ply inside the fuse right where the fin meets the boom. Just something to secure the two push rod tubes to later<\/p><\/div>\n

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The business end, servos under here and a couple pushrods to connect to. More Later<\/p><\/div>\n

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One of two bulkheads, I don’t like doing these as the are custom fit , but feel they are needed so that you have something to squeeze before you send the plane up the line<\/p><\/div>\n

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Forward bulkhead.. This will bot up against the wing rod tube later<\/p><\/div>\n

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woo hoo, I think this is going to work \ud83d\ude42 Stay tuned, more to come<\/p><\/div>\n

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Nov 04 Last Minute<\/span><\/h1>\n
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I did find the roots of the inboard foam cores, and added a slot on both panels to suit the blocks for the tubes.Be prepared I have to get some wire thru for the spoiler servo on each side as well have to set up for opening at bottom as well as top for spoiler<\/p><\/div>\n

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Tow hook, CG behind the center of wingrod by 3\/8 inch. I have slotted app 3\/4 inch just forward of the CG and then back.<\/p><\/div>\n

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Ok , this should work, I found a 4 MM tow hook, so slot width is 4 mm<\/p><\/div>\n

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Sandwich for inside the fuse, the bottom a piece of light ply, and the top something more robust 1\/8 nice ply. Will slot to suit the shank of the 4mm t nut<\/p><\/div>\n

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Something like this should work<\/p><\/div>\n

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I will add a little something later to spread the force a little further then that washer<\/p><\/div>\n

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10 Inch extension<\/p><\/div>\n

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some wing bits, Huum seems I will need some more pieces<\/p><\/div>\n

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8 MM CF spars. I have some 6 as well and am liking that<\/p><\/div>\n

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Access hatch routed out, will have to clean up<\/p><\/div>\n

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A little filing takes care of most of the rough edges<\/p><\/div>\n

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Wing rod hole, will open a bit more later to suite 11\/32 brass tube once I check and confirm location of these holes<\/p><\/div>\n

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Nov 02 2017<\/span><\/h1>\n

Double break single break wing?\u00a0 Today hatched as the<\/p>\n

Sagitta X<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Built from a West Coast Composites Syrofoam , ply sheeted wing Kit, with Fiber Glass Fuselage<\/p>\n

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Extended Wing Version\u00a0 Sagitta 900\u00a0 7037 wing Profile<\/h1>\n
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Feb 18<\/p>\n

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1\/64 plywood sheet for the inner and outer wing panels. The outer panels will get extended or replaced perhaps to extend this to a 120 Inch wingspan plane. \ud83d\ude42<\/p><\/div>\n

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The collection of 9 and 11 mm servos. two for the wings and two for the fuselage<\/p><\/div>\n

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wing rod tubes wing rod etc<\/p><\/div>\n

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Tail kit lumber and hardware as well as spars and wing leading edges. Stab and rudder will be enlarged over the original 100 inch wingspan plane<\/p><\/div>\n

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Some kit pieces and ideas on wing tip extension<\/p>\n

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I recognize some blocks with slots for the wing rod tubes, and some light ply perhaps to cap the wing root. Of course there’s the wing tips at the bottom<\/p><\/div>\n

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Wood Nose Cover<\/p>\n

Not sure what needs to be hacked off, don’t have a good enough picture.<\/p>\n

Yes, It would be nice to do a Canopy like on the Airtronics 900 Kits, that also secures the cover between the wings.<\/p>\n

Though the fuse is not likely open from behind the wing forward like on the ply sided airtonics kits<\/p>\n

Not a fan of springs, thoughts on wing retention would also be appreciated?<\/p>\n

3 pin connectors are available from\u00a0 Deans<\/p>\n

also a extension from the receiver with a female end(male pins) lying inside the fuse to pick up the servo lead from the wing may be an Option<\/p>\n

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A extend the wings on the same taper and they just get narrower<\/p>\n

B extend the wings same taper but ad another ” kink” in the wind . ala
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C build new tip preserve the same chord at the tip as with the shorter tips<\/p>\n

I went with Option C when I extended the Elio tips to create the Elio X.<\/p>\n

Sagitta 900
\nI also like option C, but Option A is appealing as well esthetically\u2026..<\/p>\n

As for the pushrods – please use a set of the extra carbon rods I sent you. I was thinking that very thought this morning as I was going through my mental checklist (which is usually very short).
\nI have some thoughts on how to pass the servo spoiler wire through the fuse and hooking up to a lead coming out of the RX\u2026.anyway, we can chat about that later.
\nI was also thinking of hacking off part of the fiberglass nose decking to make a wood nose cover similar to the wood 900 kits – I like how it slides onto fuse and meets the wing turtle deck.
\nI would like something similar done to the Oly III too\u2026\u2026it gives complete access to the whole nose section.
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 3,260 total views,  2 views today Nov 07 That’s it just a few pictures in the green,West Coast Composites Partial Kit Build Styrofoam wing, ply sheeted Nov 03 Nov 01 Under camber on the U\/S requires paying close attention when ironing on the covering. Tack at trailing edge, sides, and leading edge. Do not pull tight, just […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-5029","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/5029","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=5029"}],"version-history":[{"count":69,"href":"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/5029\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":10816,"href":"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/5029\/revisions\/10816"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/foresthaveninn.com\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=5029"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}